An
old proverb says, "If you can not someone say something good, do
not say anything" commandment of Jesus, "Love your enemies"
in the word "love" is a commitment .. How do you love
someonedo not speak bad about him How can you talk about loving our
enemies by spitting on them. Many failed in the writings of Ellen and
hatred reached their zenith They stood on the side of the enemy.
Father hatred is the devil, and they fulfill his father's
commandment, which says, "you will hate your enemy" those
who felt betrayed reflect hate, but it is not Christianity
I
will try to show some mistakes which made Ellen White, I am neither
an advocate nor her opponent, if I see errors that it shows Honestly
I approach to the issue, without glorification and without charge.
- Sabat took over from J. Bates; along with his unbiblical start and end times of hours 18.00-18.00 (It was later followed JN Andrews, observing the Sabbath from sunset Friday to sunset on Saturday.)
Adventists
in the beginning for 9 years to keep the Sabbath from Friday to
Saturday 18.00 to 18.00 And the bible says to keep the Sabbath from
sunset to sunset. It was created division A study of the issue and
presented it to the Conference of the ADS in 1855 eventually was
passed to keep the Sabbath from sunset on Friday to sunset on
Saturday, but some Adventists were not happy with this arrangement,
so Mrs. White decided that her next vision will clarify this matter.
After the conference of November
20, there was a vision that was to clarify the matter Adventists
started asking questions why they could not believe in the first
vision E.White which proclaimed that the Sabbath begins at 18.00 why,
after nine years must change the time of the Sabbath ordained or it's
not that they broke for 9 years and have not kept the Sabbath really
the Sabbath This caused that E. White for the next vision of an angel
asks him to give her an explanation that would cause the extinction
of controversy
"I
asked why it happened that now we have to change the time of
Sabbath-keeping angel answered understand it but not now,"
Spiritual Gifts Vol 4 p.3-4
Mrs.
White died without the promised explanation from God, but the keeping
of the Sabbath from sunset to become a condition theories about the
seal of God
I admit that this attitude angel
raises my concern about the authenticity of the vision of God, I do
not know the initial vision confirming the Sabbath observance from
18.00 to 18.00 but Ellen confirms that this vision was and it was a
confirmation of light in these times, if so, Adventists behaved
improperly Sabbath and these times are no basis in the Bible or even
the secular calendar. Angel had no arguments and did not know what to
say, I will not explain that an angel if he did not want to explain.
The second issue is a promise that will explain it later for another
60 years until her death He did not explainand he did not keep his
word. Maybe later he changed his mind and said that he did not
explain Truthfulness angel is undermined.
Miller's motion claimed that no
one will be saved except belonging to the Movement Miller, for all
Protestant churches have been closed door of salvation. Ellen White
believed in a closed door and the other Protestant churches are
Babylon. What is the Adventist Church's official position on the
matter:
Brochure published by Adventists
in 1980. "101 questions about E.White" says:
"Properly understood that the date of salvation for the two groups, those who rejected or withdrew from Miller has already passed for them the doors were closed, however, incorrectly concluded that no one could accept Christ after October 22 that only the little flock will be saved and all others will be lost"
"Properly understood that the date of salvation for the two groups, those who rejected or withdrew from Miller has already passed for them the doors were closed, however, incorrectly concluded that no one could accept Christ after October 22 that only the little flock will be saved and all others will be lost"
Adventist Church confirms the
belief Ellen and recognizes them as an invalid conclusion which
confirms my earlier argument that not everything she believed was
infallible
"But
here we have a letter E.White to J.Batesa one of the leaders of early
Adventism of 1847" vision of the coming Lord. I was about
mid-February 1845 in Exeter many of them did not believe in closed
doors disbelief seemed to be written on every face, there was one
sister about which it was said that she was very spiritual, a rival
Ellen White's sister Durben but the group was formed division for
closed door, she was compassionate and she could not believe the door
was closed, I did not know anything before about their difference of
opinion. Sister Durben got up to speak, it was very sad, and when she
fell out of my chair on the floor it was the first vision of Ellen
then I had a vision of Jesus ascend to his mediation throne and bound
for the holy of holies were all deeply interested in the vision ...
Sister Durben know what it was the power because experienced it many
times and shortly after I fell she was knocked down and fell to the
floor, crying to God to have pity on her when I came out of the
vision of my ears greeted by loud singing and screaming sister Durban
Most of them have adopted a vision and were reassured at the closed
door”
Look
at the vision it reaffirmed closed doors, she said her vision has
improved her mistake and made that left her disbelief at the closed
door, "" My vision mend our mistake "So put all of
confusion because today we know that the theory was false. She has
deceived the whole church in Exeter. Those who did not believe in
closed doors they were right
Vision
confirmed the theory of a closed door, but just vision nothing talked
about closed doors, it is not the fault of poor vision. Ellen put
forward such a request. It was thought that if someone has the wrong
theories that you would not have vision. God gives view, despite our
misconceptions, the theory that you have to have 100% truth in order
to get a vision from God is false. After years of Ellen she had to
give up the theory of closed doors because Adventism would cease to
exist. People received the Gospel in other countries which have never
even heard of Miller. It is interesting that Ellen as the popes have
never admitted their mistakes this early period, but she admits
sometimes doubted his vision.
Alonzo
Jones was a close associate of Ellen White, and he wrote her a letter
which has never given answers
"Next are written the words:" I must act in accordance with the light given to me by the Lord, I say to you so that Brother ATJones and Dr. Kellogg do everything possible to secure for itself a House of Prayer ". And: "This is the word of the Lord to you and others. Elder AT Jones will try in every possible way to gain this house ownership."
"Next are written the words:" I must act in accordance with the light given to me by the Lord, I say to you so that Brother ATJones and Dr. Kellogg do everything possible to secure for itself a House of Prayer ". And: "This is the word of the Lord to you and others. Elder AT Jones will try in every possible way to gain this house ownership."
Lord
knows that we never have done alleged effort that he never acted in
such a way, and it never even thought about owning a House of Prayer.
You know too well that I and Dr. Kellogg never acted together, we did
not talk with him about this matter, and we did not think about it,
to possess ownership House of Prayer.
And
something else. Do you remember Sister White that it was not the
first time you force me to deny preached by you untruth? It happened
already in 1903. When we met in a sanatorium, you asked that I paid
you a visit in your home, "Elmshaven". Then you started to
speak to me very openly, what with some surprise I listened for a
while. But at some point I interrupted you, and looking straight into
your eyes, I said, "Sister White, what you say, there is not a
grain of truth". When these words are said, you break thought
and changed the subject.
The
question of whether everything you say and write is inspired by God,
is a very serious matter, and the question is, is present in the
minds of many sincere Christians. Therefore, I assure you now, Sister
White that much more I'd rather you expressed the truth clear and
simple word "No", than I have to see how all the time risk
terrible judgment, intentionally giving evasive answers! Remember
that if you refuse to advocate on either side, the consequences will
be inevitable.
I
respect you as a sister in Christ, and the truth of God. I desire you
the truth, we were saying, about which you wrote and defended her all
these years. I do not deny that you have divine enlightenment. I do
not deny that you have the Spirit of Prophecy. I deny, however, that
everything so far wrote, are derived from divine inspiration of the
Spirit of Prophecy. Denying about your infallibility and denying that
everything you wrote is infallible Word of God. In fact, denying as
you yourself, when you refuse to answer - "Yes" or "No"
- a simple question, arguing that such an answer would be
misunderstood and misused. Why, then, I can not disagree with you on
this, and proceed as indicated by the Scriptures that "all
experience, and what is good, to keep"?
Alonzo T. Jones "(The letter did not live to no response from Mrs. White.)
Conclusion:
Alonzo T. Jones "(The letter did not live to no response from Mrs. White.)
Conclusion:
The
word "I saw"
The word "I saw" was
abused by her and do not always mean a vision from God, but the
belief that the Lord gave her the idea. If Ellen had seen in a vision
that Kellogg and Jones want to take over the House of Prayer and was
untrue so it was not from the Lord but a statement of her belief that
it is from the Lord.
"Sister White never accepted the theory of Gausefia and verbal inspiration, either for its own work, nor to the Bible," a quote from the reaction ... Rea p.28
"Sister White never accepted the theory of Gausefia and verbal inspiration, either for its own work, nor to the Bible," a quote from the reaction ... Rea p.28
So it did not consider that
every written word is inspired by it. Ellen often made use of secular
magazines and books of other authors signing them to her name
Wasp
waists
'' Lacing up the corset will push the bodies of women from their natural position. It is rare for a woman completely healthy. Most women have a number of problems. Many tease weaknesses very disturbing nature. These fashionably dressed women can not give their children a good physical structure. Some women are naturally slim waists. However, such forms should be construed as beautiful but as defective. These wasp waists may have to give them the mother as a result of practicing sinful practice of lacing up a corset and, consequently, improper breathing. Poor children born of these miserable slaves of fashion have a reduced service life and are prone to diseases. Impurities remaining in the body due to improper breathing are transmitted to offspring, "E.White" Health Reformer "of November 1871
'' Lacing up the corset will push the bodies of women from their natural position. It is rare for a woman completely healthy. Most women have a number of problems. Many tease weaknesses very disturbing nature. These fashionably dressed women can not give their children a good physical structure. Some women are naturally slim waists. However, such forms should be construed as beautiful but as defective. These wasp waists may have to give them the mother as a result of practicing sinful practice of lacing up a corset and, consequently, improper breathing. Poor children born of these miserable slaves of fashion have a reduced service life and are prone to diseases. Impurities remaining in the body due to improper breathing are transmitted to offspring, "E.White" Health Reformer "of November 1871
So why all the mothers Chinese
had bound his feet that their children are not born with lower rates,
because the code is entered in the genes of parents without hands or
feet should bear children without arms and legs, but it is not as
wrote Ellen she typed it a medical journal in which it is written
nonsense idea drew the medical journal "Hausehold" - her
grandson and custodian of her works she said she was wearing two
coats Publishers without the inspiration and the Prophet.
At the
beginning of Adventism one of marriage in the church preached that
you should not eat pork meat, Ellen sent them a letter in which
blames them for it, and uses the word "I saw" means that
God He would revealed her:
"I
saw that the views of your of pork meat would you be counted as not
true, if you would be left to themselves. But you have done to this
stone of the corner. If God asks to from his people abstaining from
pork meat, then convince them about it... He would revealed this case
more people appropriate, and I did not two or three people "
"certificate for the church" str.204-209 / the English /
"certificate for the church" str.204-209 / the English /
5 years later, in 1865. Lord
changed his mind and gave her another vision prohibit eating pork. If
Ellen did not rely on God, then you would say that she wrote from
herself Mrs. White was in the habit of relying on God. It remains to
be following conclusion: either the Lord told an untruth, or vision
was not of God, and given the assumption that God is infallible and
can not give false so either could not see anything or anyone who
showed her not telling the truth
God says:
"I Do not violate my covenant I will not change words of my mouth" Ps.89,54
Jerusalem
I also saw that the old Jerusalem would never be rebuilt ...
Experiences and Visions, p. 60.
In times of Ellen showed no signs of that it will ever be rebuilt Jerusalem. Today is a city of half a million people. The term "old Jerusalem" specifies that in Israelas opposed to the New Jerusalem in heaven by. the book of Revelation. I think that before Ellen said, "I saw 'should bite her tongue.
I also saw that the old Jerusalem would never be rebuilt ...
Experiences and Visions, p. 60.
In times of Ellen showed no signs of that it will ever be rebuilt Jerusalem. Today is a city of half a million people. The term "old Jerusalem" specifies that in Israelas opposed to the New Jerusalem in heaven by. the book of Revelation. I think that before Ellen said, "I saw 'should bite her tongue.
... stone
tablets that made up like a book. He opened it and I saw the ten
commandments written on them the finger of God. On one table
there were four, and the other six. Early writings, p.
23.
Unfortunately, the Bible says something else:
... tables were written on both sides, written on one side and on the other side. (Exod. 32:15
Unfortunately, the Bible says something else:
... tables were written on both sides, written on one side and on the other side. (Exod. 32:15
"Each
animal created by God was saved in the Ark. The species that were not
created by God, and which arose a result of merger of man are blotted
out by a flood. Since the time of the flood man still connect with
the animals, as evidenced by the existence of an almost endless
number of animal species and the existence of certain races of
people. "(Spiritual
Gifts [spiritual gifts], Volume 3, p. 75)
I admit
that I do not understand something or the text says that the
combination of man from animal created new species of animals and the
human race? The genetics is impossible, because the genes are closed
only for a given species, combining a cow with a horse, nothing is
born, the same man with the animals. If Ellen received in vision it
who is this what the vision had given her.
Just one
question to which I do not know how to answer. At the beginning when
she Ellen wrote The Great Controversy / first edition / was often
used by her word "I saw" Publisher removed it, it bothered
the readerwith the consent of of Ellen. But - this is the only work
in which sprung up footnotes references from which the works enjoyed
writing The Great Controversy, so as it is to the word "I saw"
whether this means that in the vision she saw the works of other
authors, which benefited? Moreover officially the Church admits that
in the history of Jan Hus did she, or rather rewritten from someone
historical errors. Does she see errors? I only wish that the
historical errors had not seen in this "I saw". I admit
that I am so dull that I do not understand it, if someone could
explain it to me I would appreciate
Judas
Iskariot
"While Jesus was preparing disciples to work, one of them that was not called, insisted to remain among them. It was a Judas Iscariot, the man who confessed that he is a follower of Christ, and now applied for a place in the narrow circle of his disciples (...) So they were surprised by observing the cold that turned him Jesus. "Desire of Ages, p. 206.
As the author clearly distorts the the relation of an evangelist, you can see
Mark's gospel text say::
“I went up the mountain and called those whom he wanted and they came to him. I called them twelve, that were with him, and to send them to preach” (Mark 3: 13-14)
Is this report is not clear whether you have something to add? Judas was appointed in the same way as the other apostles and not pushing himself to this group. And whether somebody likes it or not, so it is written. What remains now is a matter of choice or we believe the Bible or other scriptures. I chose a report of an evangelist
Łu.6,13
Mark.
His the relation confirms Luke: “And when it
was day, he called his disciples and chose from them twelve, whom he
also named apostles”
But that's not
all, what can we learn about Judas from E. White.
"With seriousness and sincerity express Judas said," Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go. "Jesus did not spurned nor welcomed, but only spoken sad words: "Foxes have holes and birds have nests, but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." (Mat.8,19.20)
The Life of Jesus, p. 206./Polish name edition/
"With seriousness and sincerity express Judas said," Teacher, I will follow you wherever you go. "Jesus did not spurned nor welcomed, but only spoken sad words: "Foxes have holes and birds have nests, but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head." (Mat.8,19.20)
The Life of Jesus, p. 206./Polish name edition/
”
"Are the Gospels confirm
such behavior of Jesus and Judas? No! Matthew report two that the
words of teachers of the law. Is that Judas was the teachers of the
law? This report Bible (Matt. 8: 19-22), Ellen refers to Judas. Do
you agree with this? With the further context of the 10th chapter of
the Gospel according to Luke that they could be disciples
(candidates), of whom Jesus appointed the other 72 students.
According to the report Matthew
and there was a teachers of the law and others who wanted to bury his father and at the same time to be a disciple of Jesus. Was Judas? "Ibid p.23
and there was a teachers of the law and others who wanted to bury his father and at the same time to be a disciple of Jesus. Was Judas? "Ibid p.23
Barabbas
"This man claimed to be the Messiah, saying that is the power given to him make new order of things and bring the world onto the path of righteousness. (...) He performed miracles using the power of Satan, and thus gained recognition among people. The Life of Jesus, p. 527
.
Does the Bible says that Barabbas wanted to set the world on the path of justice?
"This man claimed to be the Messiah, saying that is the power given to him make new order of things and bring the world onto the path of righteousness. (...) He performed miracles using the power of Satan, and thus gained recognition among people. The Life of Jesus, p. 527
.
Does the Bible says that Barabbas wanted to set the world on the path of justice?
Luk 23:
18-19
"So they cried out all together, saying, Away with this man, and release unto us Barabbas. And this was thrown into prison because induced in start-up and murder. "
Jan. 18:40
"They called again everyone: Not this man, but Barabbas. And that Barabbas was bandit "
"So they cried out all together, saying, Away with this man, and release unto us Barabbas. And this was thrown into prison because induced in start-up and murder. "
Jan. 18:40
"They called again everyone: Not this man, but Barabbas. And that Barabbas was bandit "
Summary:
Is Ellen White is a prophet? it is, as the title itself recognized, why should I deny her this title. I do not refuse such a title and the other prophets true and not true, but if her vision came from God, Satan or her mind will judge God himself, I did not enter the court.If you wondered if John Doe from Warsaw is a prophet and received the above arguments. Do you recognize in him a prophet of God ?
Is Ellen White is a prophet? it is, as the title itself recognized, why should I deny her this title. I do not refuse such a title and the other prophets true and not true, but if her vision came from God, Satan or her mind will judge God himself, I did not enter the court.If you wondered if John Doe from Warsaw is a prophet and received the above arguments. Do you recognize in him a prophet of God ?
